Can I ask why I should not travel to another non-Schengen country in Europe if I have overstayed my visa? She doesnt have a valid visa now, which seems to make her invalid for an extension in the upcoming 5 months Technically, she probably cannot leave Portugal and travel around to other Schengen or non-Schengen countries if she wants to extend her stay in Portugal. (I live in Sweden, and its a nightmare without having the tax number in place. Travel anywhere is a bit off due to corona, so you never know when borders do close if there is a 2nd wave. I would like to ask if the flights within Schengen will check your visa or only passports? Alex. As you can see, all of these future visits will have well over 90 days between them. Would it be better to enter through Portugal (couldnt find anything about their passport controls reputation aside from long lines) or would a direct flight to Spain be best based on their reputation for being so lax? Technically, your visa has been rejected twice, and I am not sure if you are allowed to keep staying when they are rejecting. If you try to enter again into any EU or Schengen area country you will probably face strict checks at border control and may even be refused entry. Thanks in advance, your site has a lot of helpful info, but I couldnt quite find an answer. I also have dual citizenship, and the rule is enter/exit Europe on EU passport and enter/exit America on my American passport. The guards initially stamped my passport to enter, then they noticed I had no exit stamp from that one-week visit in June, thereby classing me as an overstayer and subsequently marked the entry stamp with the letter F, the 72-year-old told expat publication the Local. My advice is he needs to leave as soon as possible and not overstay longer on his exit, he may get questioned, fined, or banned but most likely, none of that will happen and the real issue will occur when he tries to reapply for a visa and they see he has overstayed. Hi Lindsey, Tickets are expensive and I wonder if the risk of overstaying by a single day is worth it? Obviously, I know ignorance isnt an excuse, but it was a genuine mistake due to me being an idiot and misinterpreting the 90/180 rule. Can you advise me? They say I should have a decision in mid-January, and my new lawyer says that based on the cases he deals with, I will be approved. Feel free to email me privately if you want. I think the legal advisor was trying to say you can do a visa run and exit (and get a stamp to prove you left) and then re-enter right away and get a new stamp. Would that possibly make the Swiss border/custom officer easier to deal with on the overstay issue. Hey Qiongyi. I booked my ticket using Emirates so that I can avoid Schengen/European gates. Thanks for writing in a lot of people think if they get married while on their tourist visa to an EU citizen, they can automatically stay legally (so I appreciate your story proving otherwise). It will be the same process from home anyway. I COMPLETELY overlooked the fact that everything is now computerized and that they could scan my new passport and see all the data from my old passportand see that Ive overstayed. You should contact the German embassy or consulate in your city and ask about this. You can extend your visa if you have spent less than 90 days in the Schengen Area over the last 180-day period and if you havent exceeded the validity period of your visa.What happens if you overstay your visa by one day?If you had a multiple entry B-2 visa, you were out of luck; it will no longer be valid for US entry. I say do a couple things: Call the Office Franais de lImmigration et de lIntgration (OFii). Hello, I am making every effort to be a law abiding citizen. What alerted you to knowing about Schengen? I paid the fine and It is a good thing that border control never said anything to you when you left, but they might have it on record of the entry and exits which could cause an issue when your family tries to re-apply for a short stay tourist schengen visa. Im so stressed that maybe Police will arrest me when i request for a new Passport in the Embassy Well, keep in mind that you are filling out a legal government document for a visa. I wish I wouldve found this site when I first got here and didnt listen to the ya embassy because it seems they want to give advice but not follow it up by ensuring nothing will happen. okay. In my mind, this sounded like a super solid plan but not that I have only a month until I have to reconfigure things, Im a litttlleeee nervous haha. Or would being a cute 23 year old girl with manners help at all? Happy travels . Thanks a lot for all the information. We are both US citizens and naively decided to move to Spain without properly researching the visa situation. Was it a tourist? Thanks for any advice, this article was very helpful! how do you think the chances are for choosing the other purpose and explain the situation. I fly out from scheduled to fly out from Stockholm Sweden on the 4th of Jan. But if you apply, you will need to enter on that student visa (aka you will need to wait outside the country for it to be approved before entering). But according to your plans, your U.S. friend cannot legally travel in Schengen countries for more than 90 days within a period of 180 days. When i went to the border control to have my passport stamped i was asked by the man why i overstayed and told him that i continued studying a little bit longer then i was suppose to. No worries if you cant answer that. It doesnt matter where you wait for your decision for your visa to Sweden, as long as you do not enter Sweden while your visa is processing. But, i was wrong and i got stopped by Immigration officer. I went through there this past Xmas and it was a nightmare at the control and they thumbed through my pages. I would also contact the U.S. Embassy in Iceland (anonymously) and ask. I am staying here with a Visa D which expires the 31st of July and I have my trip back to Colombia the 10th of August, through Frankfurt, I would like to know if I could get troubles while leaving Europe. I need to fly back to New York (my home) for 2-3 weeks in November. You definitely MUST go to the country that issued you the Schengen tourist visa, but usually, you get the Schengen visa for the country that will be your main travel destination where you spend the most time. Hey Leia! I wouldnt be surprised if he did neither and was messing with your head.. but Im curious. So, can you please tell me, is there any period I should wait till to next plan to Europe? Cant open a bank account or get an apartment). our case is little bit different and I think our family passports dont have record in sis I wonder if the visa is somehow extended/renew with an extra 90 days after that visit to Croatia since that country doesnt form part of the Schengen Zone yet. We are very concerned for her stress and anxiety levels and need to help her out. We are not really sure about the future life together. When we made the application for the long stay visa we specified that we would be traveling by car as serbia is on the border of romania[cheaper] Hi lindsey, i was wondering if when a passport is scanned in the schengen area is it being tracked? Hi Lindsey! You think I could do that? This may be as short as a few months or as long as several years. 636
However, if there are flights available from Romania back to the US, they could argue that you could have left if you wanted to. I will not be returning to the Schengen area until our wedding which will be in Italy in July 2019. That being said, it is best to make sure he exits Schengen zone and can look for his next moves to apply for the proper visa. It would be very useful but Im aware its a risk. If you are currently in Spain, you should direct queries on possible extensions to your length of stay to your local extranjera office, details of which can be found hereor by calling 060. Im Jackie from Mexico and Ive seen a similar situation in your blog but when you replied I was kind of confused by the answer. I was also told it was fine to stay in Spain up to two weeks past June 30th which is why I left July 12th. Now Im worried about the Barcelona airport because I have never flown from there. , Thank you very much! We have given all the documents for marriage in town hall and they proved them already. You can find more information on this from my friends at Au Pair World: https://www.aupairworld.com/en/au_pair_program/germany/au_pair/visa/non_eu. And now, with the refugee crisis, I know they are a bit stricter with their borders. Although there are a lot of people who stay ignorant of these( intentionally or unintentionally). They just detain to ask questions, or they hold you up right there and ask questions. Q: I have had an investor visa with residence in 2014. I have sent a reply email to the officer explaining my situation with the flight and i attached the original flight ticket but it gives me no hope to know that Ive broken the law here and it can jeopardize things for me from now:(. It is not legal advice but is provided freely to enable you to be properly informed. EU Parliment is also looking at getting rid of Americans free-visa program in Europe, which would mean you and your husband would have to re-apply for toursits visas. I see where it says that in their information. You were not banned, so your application should eventually go through. My main goal here is to be able to re-enter Europe legally and reliably, as I have a lot of personal and business connections over here that are very important to me. You really cannot keep on coming and going like this because it digs you deeper into issues. However it could be up to the border agent as to if hes having a bad day or not. They went to Europe on Schengen visa from Australia in February and arrived in Paris and then went to Portugal. I would like to stay here for a longer time other than the 90 days visa-free cap for 180 days. I have a blog post on this here: http://www.everyoneinbetween.com/2018/07/determine-schengen-visa-validity-vs-days/. At the moment with the virus, it is an odd situation with flying anywhere because countries have actually shut their borders. Dear lindsey Im so sorry that the person informing you actually had no information at all. Did he enter your name in a computer? Another website travel writer / expat confirms that Portugal allows two 90 day extensions, the 1st can be for the simple reason of extending ones holiday, the 2nd extension must be for a specific acceptable purpose of stay such as applying for a student visa, residence visa, etc. That is so weird that they gave her an appointment almost triple the amount of her visa-waiver. Best wishes, Hey, I have a very similar story to yours. i have doubts because i dont know if the officer at the airport that time put my name in schengen information system. Truly helpful . HERE IS A DEFINITE WAY TO FIND IF YOU HAVE AN ENTRY BAN. Fines reported here have ranged from several hundred up to a thousand euros per person. She was asked to leave, which is a nice way of immigration to say if you do not want to get deported, please remove yourself from our country by XXX date. When she leaves, she may be stopped by the border police and given a fine or a ban from returning. I have C-type business multi-entry visa valid from July 3, 2018 until January 2, 2019 with duration of stay 60 days. This is great information for those looking! I overstayed by 2 months. We reiterate that this is for a serious offence. The 90/180 days rule may be confusing to many, in particular for Britons, who so far did not have to worry about how long they were staying in another EU or Schengen associated country. Furnel, Inc. has been successfully implementing this policy through honesty, integrity, and continuous improvement. I suggest leaving from Spain, actually. Im an American citizen and Im planning to go back to the U.S. very soon. This sounds a bit tricky. Can you try leaving a day early? When you applied, did you tell them your exact travel dates? Do you know anything about getting married in Spain to a EU citizen on an expired Visa? What should I do??? Alas, the stress begins! The Spanish embassy then cancelled my application saying the background check had taken too long, and refused my second application although I had all of the correct documents. Stay date: 22.03.19 to 31.04.19 40Days Even after going through all of this worry? Hello! Also, if you were sick and couldnt fly, you should have received a doctors note that would help explain this in case you got in trouble. Single entry or multi? If its for work, your work NEEDS to be responsible and get you a residence visa before you go. According to my calculator, you overstayed by 25 days. You will have to apply for an Italian residence permit. Im writing to you with a hope u will be able to help me and answer my question about Shengen Visa. The max fine is about 1500 but being banned from re-entry is the issue. For instance if I leave to the U.K. Once the visa expires and then fly into France before flying to Spain? That said, deportation is rarely enforced for a visitor who isnt attempting to work illegally or claim benefits. Im only here on a tourist visa. Coming to Europe to find jobs is legal, but overstaying could cause issues in the future. This is correct that Schengen does not keep track of each others entries and exits. I want to stay in Italy for some more months before I finally leave for my home country. I entered in Oct. 2017 and left in Sept. 2018. My visa expires at 11 of December. Well, if she has been "scared off" the idea of trying to game the Schengen regulations, our work here is done. Much easier to do things properly from the start rather than try to fix them later, but still I have to do something now. Marc Garcia Palma from Age in Spain, an organisation which is providing assistance to Brits in Catalonia, Balearic Islands, Canary Islands and North of Spain, said: While you are on waiting period to receive resolution of your application you are allowed to stay in Spain even if you surpass the 90 days-period that third country nationals have, so while you are waiting for the resolution you have nothing to worry about.. I have a visa that says I can stay till 16 Aug . Do I will face any problem when I am going back ? When you have made use of false or falsified documents, or documents that do not apply to you I have not paid the fine now because the ticke is full of greek, even I would like I dont konw how to, my questions are: Am I surely on the SIS list? Technically, you should have left within 2 weeks of receiving your rejection letter, because on your exit if questioned why you waited an extra month to go home, and your answer is you waited until your fiance went on vacation, that will definitly not be a good enough excuse for them not to fine you this time. Left back to the US, then I came back to Germany, entering via Iceland July 18 and am still here. But as you mentioned, you have paid the fine. It varies case by case of course, but I figured Id ask your opinion. This may require applying for a visa and/or permit. We are planning a 5 week trip in the spring. Was very lucky in that I did not get any fine or detained or specific stamp beyond the normal exit stamp in my US passport. Greece is quite strict. A month later I went back, entered through Belgium and was allowed in without any hesitations. However. I actually live in the Nordics, and they are a bit strict in checking these things. Also- I want to come back.. in 3 months. Hey Lindsey! I am an indian national who lives in uk on a work visa. Even if I make it out without a fine, is it possible or likely that I'll be denied entrance on revisiting in, say, a few months' time? Can they tell how long I have been home/ do they really check for that? Hello! Best of luck! I know I am a delinquent and have undoubtedly broken the law, but I would really love to minimize my chances of getting fined or banned! Hi Andrew! Im not sure if you are allowed to stay within Spain if a visa is processing. There is a chance that this situation could be more difficult when applying for future visas since they will see your entrance and exit stamps in your passport. I think you will be fine. I know Spain is one of the more lax countries when it comes to checking passports but do you think its safer to go through another Southern country? They might be able to guide you further. Would they force me to take a direct flight out instead? However if you are caught you could end up paying a fine of $300-1500so if caught you will not have saved money. His daughter had overstayed in the Schengen zone (I can't remember by how many days, but it doesn't really matter) and was stopped at the airport for questioning the day of her flight home to the U.S. As a result: 1) she was fined 500 euro on the spot 2) she was barred from entry to Schengen Europe for 5 years. As the government website says, with the D visa, you can additionally move within the territory of other Schengen states for up to three months within a half-year period. To check the Schengen Information System and the Visa Information System. As for the switch over to tourist visa, there is not a lot of information on this. Hopefully you are not passing through Germany again, just in case. While I have been traveling I have been completing online courses to finish my last semester of university. After one month traveling in Europe we discovered she was pregnant and we decided to stay in France and have the baby there (there where some medical issues and we were afraid to fly back). I would like to get some information about this, and with whom should I have contact, in order to avoid troubles. I would like for various reasons to stay here into the summer. If I spend two weeks in London, it resets sufficiently for me to come back in for 2 weeks. Let me know if you have any insight or points of clarification. But i didnt get a receipt for my request submission. Alberto Serrano. I think you should re-apply for the visa there is not a lot you can do since the law was broken very obviously without trying to get extensions. Or to any other schengin areas ??? So thats what I did, changed my ticket and took the next flight to JFK. My advice is to speak (anonymously) by phone or email with the Pakistan embassy in Netherlands, and of course if you are able to get the visas and all goes well, make sure that you are able to have everyone understand their visa rules, and looking into extensions if needed. You will most likely be told you must leave as soon as possible. Your visa should say all the rules. Thanks heaps. . I appreciate any advice you have! Should I be? Also, make sure you have not started working yet until your new visa/residence card has been granted. You should definitely pay the fine. 1.Do u think Ill have any problems when I come back to France again on 14 Feb? I suggest calling Frances immigration agency and ask them what to do if you are stuck waiting for the work visa. Im leaving Germany a week after my type D visa expires, because my visa expires on my last day of work and I needed to pack and I needed it to be a weekend for my roommate to drive me to an international airport. so all days in 180 are 91. Reader question: We are British and travelled to our second home in Spain before Christmas. My question is, what do you think they will do to me as I dont want to pay the fine? Im just worried that they will count my days at passport control when i get my stamp out of Sweden. So whether youd exiting to UK or exiting to Morocco, it doesnt matter because the issue would be at the exit point in Spain (they have control for ferries too.) How do you know this?? Is there any security check through check-in counters? I am not sure and certainly not an expert in these matters to reckon if authorities will be so tough on him or will they show some liniency towards him. Thanks for writing in. Hi Lindsey! I left July 12th for the US and Im now volunteering in Greece. When your resident/work permit expires, you can have 90 days in Schengen minus Germany. So before the 18th of September. thanks, Hello! Longer stays without leaving require Polish National Visa, provide by the Polish Consulates in the USA, or a temporary residence permit. As i didnt pay attention to the rules, i stayed 86(instead of a month) days within the 90 days of the validity of the visa. Probably! I am in Croatia now, coincidentally! (Im also eligible for a German passport because I was born in Germany to a German parent, but havent applied yet). Guys here is an idea. Today I went to extend my visa and it is impossible (because it expired). It is not worth it the penalty you might receive for your future travel. You could always leave 2 days earlier to be 100% you wont get stopped. he got a good paying job now so we know that we meet all the requirements. 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